John 12:34 kjv
The people answered him, We have heard out of the law that Christ abideth for ever: and how sayest thou, The Son of man must be lifted up? who is this Son of man?
John 12:34 nkjv
The people answered Him, "We have heard from the law that the Christ remains forever; and how can You say, 'The Son of Man must be lifted up'? Who is this Son of Man?"
John 12:34 niv
The crowd spoke up, "We have heard from the Law that the Messiah will remain forever, so how can you say, 'The Son of Man must be lifted up'? Who is this 'Son of Man'?"
John 12:34 esv
So the crowd answered him, "We have heard from the Law that the Christ remains forever. How can you say that the Son of Man must be lifted up? Who is this Son of Man?"
John 12:34 nlt
The crowd responded, "We understood from Scripture that the Messiah would live forever. How can you say the Son of Man will die? Just who is this Son of Man, anyway?"
John 12 34 Cross References
Verse | Text | Reference |
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John 12:34 | The crowd answered him, "We have heard from the Law that the Christ remains forever. How can you say that the Son of Man must be lifted up? Who is this Son of Man?" | Law points to Messianic permanence |
John 3:14 | And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up. | Jesus Himself refers to His crucifixion as "lifting up" |
John 8:28 | So Jesus said, "When you lift up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am he, and that I do nothing on my own authority, but speak just as the Father taught me." | Jesus connects "lifting up" with His divine authority |
Acts 13:35-37 | Consequently he says also in another psalm, 'You will not let your Holy One see corruption.' For David, after he had served the purpose of God in his generation, fell asleep and was gathered to his fathers and saw corruption, but he whom God raised up did not see corruption. | Early church applies Psalm 16 to Christ's resurrection, implying His eternal reign |
Romans 1:3-4 | concerning his Son, who was descended from David according to the flesh and was appointed the Holy and powerful Son of God by the resurrection from the dead, Jesus Christ our Lord. | Resurrection as proof of Son of Man's divine identity and eternal status |
1 Corinthians 15:45 | Thus also it is written, "The first man Adam became a living being"; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit. | Christ as the Second Adam, His reign is eternal life |
Philippians 2:9-11 | Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. | Christ's exaltation beyond earthly understanding of royalty |
Revelation 11:15 | Then the seventh angel blew his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, saying, "The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he shall reign forever and ever." | Prophecy of Christ's eternal reign |
Isaiah 9:6-7 | For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and of peace there will be no end, upon the throne of David and over his kingdom, to establish it and to uphold it with justice and with righteousness from this time forth and forevermore. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will do this. | Old Testament prophecy of an everlasting king from David's line |
Jeremiah 23:5-6 | "Behold, days are coming, declares the LORD, when I will raise up for David a righteous Branch, and he shall reign as king and deal wisely, and shall execute justice and righteousness in the land. In his days Judah will be saved, and Israel will dwell securely. And this is the name by which he will be called: The LORD is our righteousness." | Messianic prophecy of eternal kingship and righteousness |
Psalm 2:6-7 | "I have set my King on Zion, my holy hill." I will tell of the decree: The LORD said to me, "You are my Son; today I have begotten you." | God declares Jesus as His Son and appointed King |
Psalm 110:1 | The LORD says to my Lord: "Sit at my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool." | Davidic King seated at God's right hand, signifies eternal authority |
2 Samuel 7:16 | And your house and your kingdom will be made sure forever before me. Your throne shall be established forever.'" | God's promise of an everlasting Davidic kingdom |
Acts 2:30-31 | Being therefore a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn an oath to him that he would set him on his own ancestor's throne, he foresaw and spoke about the resurrection of the Christ, that he was not abandoned to Hades, nor did his flesh see corruption. | Peter explains David's prophecy regarding Christ's reign after death |
Luke 1:32-33 | He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. And the Lord God will give to him the throne of his father David, and he will reign over the house of Jacob forever, and of his kingdom there will be no end." | Angelic announcement of Jesus' eternal reign |
John 14:3 | And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will take you to myself, that where I am you may be also. | Jesus promises future presence, not earthly liberation |
Matthew 19:28 | Jesus said to them, "Truly, I say to you, in the new world, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you also will sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel." | Jesus speaks of His future glorious reign in a spiritual kingdom |
John 18:36 | Jesus answered, "My kingdom is not of this world. If my kingdom were of this world, my servants would have fought, that I might not be delivered to the Jews. But my kingdom is not from the}]$. | Jesus directly contrasts His kingdom with earthly kingdoms |
Daniel 7:13-14 | I saw in the night visions, and behold, with the clouds of heaven there came one like a son of man, and he came to the Ancient of Days and was presented before him. And to him was given dominion and glory and a kingdom, that all peoples, nations, and languages should serve him; his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom shall never be destroyed. | Prophecy in Daniel of a heavenly kingdom given to the Son of Man |
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John 12 34 Meaning
The crowd's response to Jesus’ statement signifies their misunderstanding of His ultimate purpose and kingship. They interpret "king" in a purely temporal, political sense, expecting liberation from Roman rule, not spiritual salvation and sacrifice. Jesus clarifies that His kingdom is not of this world, thus refuting their earthly expectations.
John 12 34 Context
This statement occurs at the end of Jesus’ public ministry, during the Passover week in Jerusalem. Many people have come to celebrate and have witnessed Jesus’ miracles, including the raising of Lazarus. They are buzzing with anticipation, with some associating Him with the Messiah. This particular conversation happens in the temple courts where Jesus has been teaching. The context is one of escalating political and religious tension, as the Jewish leaders are actively plotting against Jesus. The crowd, having heard from "the Law" (referring to the Old Testament Scriptures), specifically the Psalms and prophecies concerning the Messiah, holds firm expectations of a Davidic King who would overthrow Roman oppression and establish an earthly kingdom that would endure forever.
John 12 34 Word Analysis
- "Then" (εἶτα - eita): Indicates a subsequent action or statement.
- "the crowd" (ὁ ὄχλος - ho ochlos): Refers to the multitude of people present, a diverse group.
- "answered" (ἀπεκρίθη - apekrithe): Responded to Jesus’ previous statements about His coming hour and glorification.
- "him" (αὐτῷ - autō): To Jesus.
- "We" (ἡμεῖς - hēmeis): The collective "we" of the crowd, speaking with a unified voice of their shared understanding.
- "have heard" (ἠκούσαμεν - ēkousamen): Indicates they have received information or teachings.
- "from the Law" (ἐκ τοῦ νόμου - ek tou nomou): Referring to the Old Testament, specifically passages understood to speak of the Messiah. The "Law" here broadly represents the authoritative Scripture for the Jews.
- "that" (ὅτι - hoti): Introduces the content of what they have heard from the Law.
- "the Christ" (ὁ Χριστὸς - ho Christos): The Anointed One, the Messiah. This is the Greek term for the Hebrew "Mashiach." They expect a royal, conquering figure.
- "remains" (μένει - menei): Continues to exist, abides perpetually.
- "forever" (εἰς τὸν αἰῶνα - eis ton aiōna): Into the age, for eternity. This speaks to their expectation of an unending earthly kingdom.
- "How" (πῶς - pōs): Asks the manner or reason.
- "can you say" (δύνασαι λέγειν - dynasai legein): You are able to say. Challenges Jesus’ statement based on their understanding.
- "that" (ὅτι - hoti): Introduces the statement being questioned.
- "the Son of Man" (ὁ υἱὸς τοῦ ἀνθρώπου - ho huios tou anthropou): A title Jesus frequently used for Himself, referring to His humanity but also to the divine figure in Daniel 7. The crowd understands it in connection to an earthly king, not the suffering servant.
- "must be" (δεῖ - dei): It is necessary, it is required.
- "lifted up" (ὑψωθῇ - hypsōthē): To be elevated, exalted. While Jesus uses this term to refer to His crucifixion (and subsequent exaltation), the crowd interprets it physically or metaphorically within an earthly context of power.
- "Who" (τὶς - tis): What or who. They are questioning the identity and purpose of this "Son of Man" who speaks of being "lifted up."
- "is" (ἐστιν - estin): To be.
- "this" (οὗτος - houtos): This specific one.
- "Son of Man" (υἱὸς τοῦ ἀνθρώπου - huios tou anthropou): Repetition of the title, emphasizing their confusion.
Words-group by words-group analysis:
- "The Christ remains forever": This phrase captures the core of their misunderstanding. The Old Testament indeed speaks of a Messiah who would reign eternally. However, they incorrectly applied this eternity to an unbroken earthly dominion, failing to grasp the sacrificial nature of His reign, which leads to eternal life through His death and resurrection. This belief was widespread, drawing from passages like Psalm 110:4, "The LORD has sworn and will not change his mind: 'You are a priest forever in the order of Melchizedek.'" (Though they might have focused more on the kingly aspect).
- "How can you say that the Son of Man must be lifted up?": This question directly confronts Jesus’ earlier statement (John 12:23, 32). The word "lifted up" (ὑψωθῇ) carries the double meaning of being crucified and then exalted. For Jesus, this means His sacrificial death is the very means of His glorification and universal drawing. For the crowd, "lifted up" would only suggest earthly exaltation to power or visible elevation to triumph. Their confusion stems from a perceived contradiction between an enduring king and a concept of "lifting up" that seemed like defeat or demotion to their political mindset.
John 12 34 Bonus Section
The "Law" here is not limited to the Pentateuch but likely encompasses the entirety of the Old Testament Scriptures in general usage by Jewish people, especially in understanding messianic prophecies. Their expectation aligns with fervent hopes for a leader like David who would restore Israel's glory. This expectation, while partly fulfilled in Christ, needed a profound reinterpretation to understand His messiahship not as military triumph but as spiritual conquest over sin and death. The disciples themselves struggled with this understanding for a long time, even after the resurrection, as seen in Acts 1:6.
John 12 34 Commentary
The crowd’s reaction reveals a superficial understanding of the Messiah. They latch onto promises of eternal kingship from the Law but cannot reconcile it with Jesus’ intimations of suffering and a mysterious "lifting up." Their perspective is rigidly terrestrial, focusing on national liberation rather than spiritual redemption. Jesus’ teachings challenge these earthly assumptions, pointing to a kingdom and exaltation that transcend worldly power structures. His crucifixion, what they interpret as a downfall, is in reality His ultimate ascension and victory, which He Himself prophesies here as the means of His glorification and of drawing all people to Himself. The Son of Man, as foretold in Daniel, is indeed given an everlasting kingdom, but its inauguration comes through suffering and death, not political revolution.