Job 8:8 kjv
For enquire, I pray thee, of the former age, and prepare thyself to the search of their fathers:
Job 8:8 nkjv
"For inquire, please, of the former age, And consider the things discovered by their fathers;
Job 8:8 niv
"Ask the former generation and find out what their ancestors learned,
Job 8:8 esv
"For inquire, please, of bygone ages, and consider what the fathers have searched out.
Job 8:8 nlt
"Just ask the previous generation.
Pay attention to the experience of our ancestors.
Job 8 8 Cross References
Verse | Text | Reference |
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Value of Ancestral/Ancient Wisdom | ||
Deut 32:7 | Remember the days of old; consider the years of many generations; ask your father, and he will show you; your elders, and they will tell you. | Upholds the value of inquiring into past wisdom. |
Ps 44:1 | O God, we have heard with our ears, our fathers have told us, what deeds you performed in their days, in the days of old. | Acknowledges inherited historical and spiritual knowledge. |
Prov 22:28 | Do not move an ancient landmark that your fathers have set. | Respect for established traditions and boundaries. |
Isa 51:1 | Look to the rock from which you were hewn, and to the quarry from which you were dug. | Remembering one's spiritual heritage and origins. |
Jer 6:16 | Stand by the roads, and look, and ask for the ancient paths, where the good way is... | Seeking tried-and-true wisdom for right living. |
Joel 1:3 | Tell your children of it, and let your children tell their children, and their children to another generation. | Command to pass on important truths through generations. |
Critique of Human/Traditional Wisdom vs. God's Wisdom | ||
Jer 8:9 | The wise men are put to shame; they are dismayed and caught; behold, they have rejected the word of the Lord, so what wisdom is in them? | Questions the validity of wisdom not aligned with God's word. |
1 Cor 1:20 | Where is the one who is wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? | Highlights the inadequacy of human wisdom compared to God's. |
Mk 7:8 | You leave the commandment of God and hold to the tradition of men. | Warns against valuing human tradition above divine commands. |
Col 2:8 | See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world... | Admonishes against deceptive human philosophies. |
Isa 55:8-9 | For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, declares the Lord... | Emphasizes the transcendence of God's wisdom over human understanding. |
Pr 28:11 | A rich man is wise in his own eyes, but a poor man who has understanding sees through him. | Illustrates the deceptive nature of self-perceived wisdom. |
Seeking Wisdom from God | ||
Jas 1:5 | If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask God, who gives generously to all without reproach... | Encourages seeking divine wisdom directly from God. |
Prov 2:6 | For the Lord gives wisdom; from his mouth come knowledge and understanding. | Source of true wisdom is God, not solely ancestral records. |
Pr 3:5-6 | Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding... | Reliance on God's direction, not human intellect or tradition alone. |
Rom 11:33 | Oh, the depth of the riches and wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are his judgments and how inscrutable his ways! | Acknowledges the incomprehensibility of God's ways. |
Context of Suffering and Divine Justice (Counterpoints to Bildad's View) | ||
Job 13:4 | As for you, you whitewash with lies; worthless physicians are you all. | Job's assessment of his friends' ineffective counsel. |
Job 42:7 | After the Lord had spoken these words to Job, the Lord said to Eliphaz the Temanite: "My anger burns against you and against your two friends, for you have not spoken of me what is right, as my servant Job has." | God's rebuke of the friends' flawed theological assertions. |
Jn 9:1-3 | As he passed by, he saw a man blind from birth... "Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?" Jesus answered, "It was not that this man sinned, or his parents, but that the works of God might be displayed in him." | Directly refutes the simplistic "suffering equals sin" theology. |
Lk 13:1-5 | Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners...? Or those eighteen on whom the tower in Siloam fell...? I tell you, no; but unless you repent, you will all likewise perish. | Christ's teaching challenging immediate causality between specific sin and suffering. |
Rom 9:20 | But who are you, O man, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say to its moldmaker, "Why have you made me thus?" | Affirmation of God's sovereignty beyond human questioning or comprehension. |
2 Cor 4:17 | For this light momentary affliction is preparing for us an eternal weight of glory beyond all comparison. | New Testament perspective on the purpose of suffering. |
Job 8 verses
Job 8 8 Meaning
Job 8:8 is part of Bildad's first speech, where he asserts the principle of retribution theology, stating that God always punishes the wicked and rewards the righteous. Here, he urges Job to consult the wisdom of previous generations and the established knowledge passed down by their ancestors. Bildad suggests that this long-standing tradition holds the key to understanding divine justice and that by examining it, Job would find confirmation of his friends' simplistic view—namely, that Job's suffering must be due to his sin, as God would never cause righteous suffering.
Job 8 8 Context
Job chapter 8 features the first speech of Bildad the Shuhite, one of Job's three friends who come to comfort him. Following Eliphaz's speech in chapters 4-5, Bildad reiterates and reinforces the traditional wisdom doctrine of divine retribution. He operates from the premise that God is absolutely just and would never allow a truly innocent person to suffer intensely. Therefore, Job's immense suffering, in Bildad's view, can only be explained by Job's great sin. In Job 8:8, Bildad admonishes Job to consult the wisdom of the past, specifically the "bygone ages" and the "things searched out by their fathers," as he believes that ancient traditions confirm this straightforward, cause-and-effect relationship between piety and prosperity, and sin and suffering. This appeals to the revered authority of tradition in ancient Near Eastern cultures, where ancestral wisdom was highly regarded and passed down orally and through established practices, forming the bedrock of societal understanding of justice and morality. The irony of the book of Job, however, is that while Bildad accurately reflects prevalent human wisdom, the divine narrative reveals its profound limitations in understanding God's complex sovereignty and the true nature of Job's ordeal.
Job 8 8 Word analysis
- For (כִּֽי- Ki): A causal conjunction, meaning "for," "because," or "indeed." It introduces Bildad's reasoning, suggesting that what follows is a foundational premise supporting his argument for Job.
- inquire (שְֽׁאַל־נָא - sh'al-na): Derived from שָׁאַל (sha'al), meaning "to ask," "to inquire," "to consult," "to request." The suffix נָא (na) is an emphatic particle, often rendered as "please" or "I pray," making it an earnest plea or strong admonition. It implies not just a casual question but a serious investigation or consultation, like seeking counsel from an authority.
- please: (נָא - na) as described above, intensifies the command to inquire, showing earnestness.
- of bygone (לְד֣וֹר - l'dor): "To a generation," or "of a generation." The word דּוֹר (dor) means "generation," "age," "period of time." Here, it points to past, remote times, encompassing the collective wisdom and experience accumulated over centuries. It refers to a distinct period of people in the past, hence "bygone ages."
- ages: Refers to the duration of the "bygone" generation(s), emphasizing the long sweep of time from which this wisdom is drawn.
- and (וְֽ - v'): A simple conjunctive "and," connecting the two actions of inquiring and considering.
- consider (וְכוֹנֵן֮ - v'konen): From כּוּן (kun), meaning "to be firm," "to be established," "to prepare," "to direct," "to consider," "to establish one's way." Here, it suggests deep, serious consideration and assimilation of knowledge, to firmly establish it in one's understanding. It implies making one's judgment aligned with that past wisdom.
- the things searched out (וְחֵקֶר֮ - v'cheqer): From חֵקֶר (cheqer), meaning "searching," "investigation," "scrutiny," "deep inquiry," "recollection." It refers to that which has been deeply investigated, thoroughly explored, and thus is considered well-established and verified knowledge, not merely superficial observation. It emphasizes the foundational, verified nature of the wisdom.
- by their (אֲבוֹתָ֗ם - avotam): A suffix meaning "their."
- fathers (אֲבוֹתָ֗ם - avotam): From אָב ('av), meaning "father," but often used in the plural (אֲבוֹת, 'avot) to mean "ancestors," "forefathers," "patriarchs." It denotes the lineage or collective group of predecessors who originally accumulated or preserved this knowledge. This highlights the intergenerational transmission of wisdom.
- "For inquire, please, of bygone ages": Bildad directs Job to external authority—the long-standing tradition and collected wisdom of ancient generations. This highlights a common ancient Near Eastern value for tradition and inherited knowledge as a source of truth. It suggests a dogmatic appeal to what is already "known" rather than a humble, direct seeking of God or fresh revelation.
- "and consider the things searched out by their fathers": This phrase further emphasizes that the knowledge to be consulted is not mere folklore but information believed to be rigorously examined and firmly established by respected predecessors. It's about aligning oneself with historical, foundational truths passed down, which Bildad believes confirm his argument. The irony lies in that while these "fathers" searched out certain truths, their human limitations meant they couldn't grasp the full complexity of God's ways, which Job's story subsequently reveals.
Job 8 8 Bonus section
While ancestral wisdom often provides foundational truths, Bildad's reliance on it illustrates the potential pitfall of uncritically applying past frameworks to every present situation, particularly divine actions that defy simple human categorization. The "things searched out by their fathers" often codified practical observations of life, but these observations were always incomplete because they stemmed from a human perspective that could not fully encompass divine mystery, the influence of the spiritual realm (like Satan's role in Job's suffering), or God's purposes for character development and greater glory that transcend immediate rewards or punishments. Bildad represents a theological rigidity that prefers system and dogma over empathy, deep inquiry, and openness to God working in unexpected ways. His statement also shows a deep cultural respect for seniority and established order, yet fails to discern the exceptional nature of Job's situation, revealing the limitations of even highly esteemed human traditions when faced with divine singularity.
Job 8 8 Commentary
Job 8:8 encapsulates Bildad's approach to Job's suffering: an unwavering appeal to inherited, traditional wisdom. He urges Job to look to "bygone ages" and "their fathers" for the answers, believing that ancient, established truths unequivocally support the retribution theology where righteous prosperity and wicked suffering are absolute. This reflects the common theological framework of the ancient Near East, where a direct causal link between conduct and consequence was universally accepted. Bildad's "inquire, please" isn't an invitation for new discovery but a demand for Job to submit to this received wisdom, implicitly accusing Job of deviating from these accepted truths. The irony lies in Bildad's rigid adherence to this system; while human tradition can indeed contain much wisdom, it is ultimately limited and incapable of fully explaining God's sovereign purposes, particularly in complex cases like Job's. The entire Book of Job serves to challenge the simplistic application of this traditional framework, revealing that God's ways are often beyond human "searched out" wisdom and can involve suffering that is not a direct consequence of personal sin. This verse highlights the tension between reliance on established human doctrines and the need for a deeper, more direct encounter with God's multifaceted truth.