2 Samuel 18:8 kjv
For the battle was there scattered over the face of all the country: and the wood devoured more people that day than the sword devoured.
2 Samuel 18:8 nkjv
For the battle there was scattered over the face of the whole countryside, and the woods devoured more people that day than the sword devoured.
2 Samuel 18:8 niv
The battle spread out over the whole countryside, and the forest swallowed up more men that day than the sword.
2 Samuel 18:8 esv
The battle spread over the face of all the country, and the forest devoured more people that day than the sword.
2 Samuel 18:8 nlt
The battle raged all across the countryside, and more men died because of the forest than were killed by the sword.
2 Samuel 18 8 Cross References
Verse | Text | Reference |
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Judg 5:20 | The stars fought from heaven; from their courses they fought against Sisera. | Nature fighting alongside God's will |
Josh 10:11 | ...the LORD threw down large hailstones from heaven...more died from the hailstones than from the sword. | Divine use of nature in battle for more casualties than sword. |
Exod 14:27 | The water flowed back...not one of them remained. | Divine intervention in nature leading to total annihilation. |
1 Sam 7:10 | The LORD thundered with a loud thunder against the Philistines that day... | God uses natural phenomena to aid His people in battle. |
Isa 24:18 | ...whoever flees at the sound of terror will fall into a pit... | Depiction of fleeing individuals meeting demise by other means (pits, snares). |
Lev 26:36 | ...fear shall pursue them...flee when no one pursues. | Consequence of God's curse leading to chaotic, self-inflicted rout. |
Deut 28:25 | The LORD will cause you to be defeated before your enemies...you will scatter. | A consequence of disobedience is being scattered in defeat. |
Ps 68:1-2 | May God arise, may his enemies be scattered... | God scattering His enemies through overwhelming force or confusion. |
Prov 16:18 | Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall. | Absalom's pride leading to his destructive fall. |
Ps 73:18-19 | ...You cast them down to destruction. How suddenly are they destroyed! | Sudden and overwhelming destruction of the wicked. |
Matt 7:27 | ...and the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it fell... | Natural elements contributing to destruction. |
Ps 37:20 | But the wicked will perish; the LORD’s enemies will be like the glory of the pastures—they vanish... | The wicked fading away and perishing. |
2 Kgs 3:23 | ...this is blood: the kings are surely destroyed... | Divine confusion leading to self-destruction among enemies. |
Isa 3:11 | Woe to the wicked! It shall be ill with him, for what his hands have done shall be done to him. | Consequences of rebellion and evil actions. |
Jer 11:23 | ...I will bring disaster upon them in the year of their punishment. | Divine judgment bringing disaster. |
Lam 1:12 | ...see if there is any sorrow like my sorrow... | Grief and overwhelming devastation in the aftermath of conflict. |
Job 20:26 | Total darkness waits for him; a fire not kindled by man will devour him. | Imagery of non-human forces (here, fire) consuming the wicked. |
Judg 4:15 | ...the LORD routed Sisera and all his chariots... | God causing complete rout and panic among enemies. |
2 Chr 13:16 | So the sons of Israel defeated them with a great slaughter. | Overwhelming victory and large casualties inflicted in battle by God's favor. |
Hab 3:6 | He stands, and shakes the earth...the ancient mountains crumbled... | God's power causing even creation to tremble or respond. |
Zech 14:13 | On that day a great panic from the LORD will fall on them... | Divine panic leading to mutual destruction among enemies. |
Gen 3:17-19 | Cursed is the ground because of you; through toil you will eat of it... | Land itself connected to consequences of human rebellion (the ground yielding pain). |
2 Samuel 18 verses
2 Samuel 18 8 Meaning
This verse graphically portrays the sheer chaos and devastating extent of the battle fought by King David's forces against Absalom's rebel army. It emphasizes that the combat was not a concentrated clash but was dispersed widely across the difficult terrain, notably the dense forest of Ephraim. The most striking declaration is that the natural environment—the forest itself—was a more lethal adversary to Absalom's men that day than the swords wielded by David's soldiers. This suggests that the difficult topography, dense undergrowth, natural hazards, disorientation, and perhaps even divine intervention through the environment, caused a greater number of casualties among the fleeing rebels than direct hand-to-hand combat.
2 Samuel 18 8 Context
This verse is situated in the eighteenth chapter of Second Samuel, narrating the climatic battle between David's loyalist forces and the rebellious army led by his son Absalom. King David, warned by his generals not to go out to battle himself, stationed his forces in the forest of Ephraim. He gave strict orders to deal gently with Absalom. The ensuing confrontation in the rough terrain saw Absalom's larger, likely less disciplined, army completely routed. This verse specifically highlights the chaotic nature of the defeat and how the natural environment of the forest contributed significantly, and even predominantly, to Absalom's army's demise, beyond the direct combat of swords. It sets the stage for the narrative of Absalom's tragic end.
2 Samuel 18 8 Word analysis
- For the battle (כִּי הַמִּלְחָמָה - ki ha'milchamah):
ki
(כִּי): Often translated as "for," "because," or "indeed." Here, it introduces the explanation or reason for the previous events (the decisive defeat of Absalom's army).ha'milchamah
(הַמִּלְחָמָה): "The battle," from lacham (לחם) "to fight." Refers to the specific military engagement of that day. The definite article 'the' indicates a known, unique battle.
- there was scattered (הָיְתָה נָפוֹצָה - haytah naphotza):
haytah
(הָיְתָה): "She was" (feminine singular past tense of hayah "to be"). Refers to ha'milchamah (battle), implying its nature was one of scattering.naphotza
(נָפוֹצָה): "Scattered," "dispersed," "routed." From the root putz (פוץ), meaning "to scatter," "to spread abroad," "to disperse." This word vividly describes the disorganization, panic, and widespread disintegration of Absalom's forces, suggesting a complete lack of cohesion and resistance as they fled in disarray rather than engaging in an ordered retreat.
- over the face of all the country (עַל פְּנֵי כָּל הָאָרֶץ - al pnei kol ha'aretz):
al pnei
(עַל פְּנֵי): "Upon the face of," "over." This idiomatic expression denotes covering an area or being spread across its surface.kol ha'aretz
(כָּל הָאָרֶץ): "All the land," "all the country." While "land" can mean the entire earth, in this specific context, it refers to the entire region where the battle took place, specifically the Forest of Ephraim, emphasizing its wide geographical reach and the thoroughness of the rout across a broad area.
- and the forest (וְהַיַּעַר - v'haya'ar):
v'
(וְ): "And."ha'ya'ar
(הַיַּעַר): "The forest." Refers to the specific "forest of Ephraim," known for its dense thickets, rugged terrain, and potential hazards like pits or tangled growth. It is presented almost as an active participant in the battle.
- devoured (אָכְלָה - akhla):
akhla
(אָכְלָה): "Ate," "consumed," "devoured" (feminine singular past tense of akal - אכל). This is a strong and personifying verb. For the forest, it means that the natural environment caused deaths not just through obstruction but by trapping, consuming, or facilitating their demise through exposure, falls, or inability to escape. When used for the sword, it implies the destructive, consuming power of the weapon. The parallelism underscores a non-human force acting in a similar destructive capacity as the weapon of war.
- more people that day (עוֹד מֵהָעָם בַּיּוֹם הַהוּא - od meha'am ba'yom ha'hu):
od
(עוֹד): "More," "yet more." Signifies a greater quantity or extent.meha'am
(מֵהָעָם): "From the people," "of the people." Refers to the human casualties from Absalom's army.ba'yom ha'hu
(בַּיּוֹם הַהוּא): "In that day," "that day." Specifies the timeframe of the battle.
- than the sword devoured (מֵאֲשֶׁר אָכְלָה הַחֶרֶב - me'asher akhla ha'cherev):
me'asher
(מֵאֲשֶׁר): "Than that which," "than." Used for comparison.akhla
(אָכְלָה): "Devoured" (repetition, emphasizing the parallel destructive capacity).ha'cherev
(הַחֶרֶב): "The sword." Represents conventional warfare and the direct combat deaths.
Words-group analysis:
- "For the battle there was scattered over the face of all the country": This phrase sets the scene, depicting a complete rout rather than a conventional battle. The use of "scattered" across "all the country" highlights the extensive disorganization, lack of command and control, and panic among Absalom's forces, implying their utter demoralization and pursuit across a wide area. It signifies a defeat so comprehensive that resistance was minimal and dispersed.
- "and the forest devoured more people that day than the sword devoured": This is the crucial comparative clause. The repetition of "devoured" (אכלה) for both the forest and the sword personifies the forest as an active agent of destruction, much like a weapon. This parallelism emphasizes the disproportionate lethality of the natural environment. It speaks to:
- Divine Intervention: This stark contrast often signifies a supernatural or divine hand at work. The natural elements acting as an instrument of judgment suggests God was fighting against Absalom's rebellion. It was not merely David's military superiority, but God's action, utilizing the very ground, that overwhelmed Absalom's forces.
- Chaos and Incompetence: The forest's lethality points to the unpreparedness and lack of discipline of Absalom's troops in such terrain. They were likely not accustomed to fighting in dense woodland, leading to disorientation, entrapment, falls into ravines or pits, or succumbing to exhaustion, thirst, or panic.
- Symbolism of Nature: Nature, as God's creation, serves as His agent. The very ground, often blessed or cursed by God in other parts of Scripture, here actively works against the rebels.
2 Samuel 18 8 Bonus section
The depiction of the forest 'devouring' Absalom's forces serves as a subtle theological polemic against relying solely on human strength or numbers. Absalom's army was likely larger (cf. 2 Sam 17:11), but size proved irrelevant in the face of divine providence operating through the challenging natural environment. This illustrates the principle that "The race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, nor bread to the wise, nor riches to the intelligent, nor favor to those with knowledge, but time and chance happen to them all" (Ecc 9:11). More profoundly, it reveals that God fights on behalf of His chosen ones, and His instruments can be as unconventional as the very ground beneath the feet of those in rebellion. The chaotic scattering reflects the intrinsic disorder of rebellion itself, while the earth's response points to God's inherent opposition to sin and disorder.
2 Samuel 18 8 Commentary
Second Samuel 18:8 vividly portrays the crushing defeat of Absalom's rebellion, emphasizing the chaotic and overwhelming nature of the rout rather than a mere battle. The primary force behind the significant casualty count was not David's army alone, but the treacherous terrain of the Forest of Ephraim. This highlights several key theological and military points: firstly, the utter disorganization and panic among Absalom's troops, so severe that they were not merely retreating but scattering across a wide area, unable to regroup or fight effectively. Secondly, it suggests a profound divine element in Absalom's downfall. The forest, a part of God's creation, became an active participant in meting out judgment. Just as God sometimes uses natural phenomena to aid His chosen or to defeat His enemies (like hailstones against the Amorites in Josh 10, or thunder against the Philistines in 1 Sam 7), here, the environment itself becomes more deadly than human weaponry. This served as a clear message that God opposed Absalom's rebellion against His anointed king, David. The comparison is profound: a common weapon's destructive power is overshadowed by an inanimate, yet 'devouring,' environment, making the defeat appear to be orchestrated by a greater power beyond human command.